S3 EP22: The Beginning of A Soul-searching Journey into Men's Significance

Hello, hello. Welcome back Gosh diamonds in the rough. Amen, we hope all is well. We are so glad you are back with us one more week. If you don't know who I am, my name is Catherine.

And I am Michael.

Amen. We are husband and wife. We've been doing this, for this is our second year, right.

Yeah.

And we have literally fallen in love with podcasting, amen, and we're so glad that we are able to be a light for you as we all shine together. His diamonds. I'm doing great. I'm excited, honey. How about you?

I'm doing good too, and you know, the one thing I like about podcasts is you know it's fun to do, but it's even more exciting when you get into the word with it. You know, and when you combine those two things together, it's like it's almost like a, a portable Bible study. It's like, you know, because you know sometimes, you know you sit down and you read, but it's another thing where you can go about your day and still listen to it. That's why I say a portable Bible study.

I like it, I like it, I like it. All right, y'all. Y'all know what we got to do. First let's go.

Let's pray. Dear Heavenly Father, our Lord and our Savior, jesus Christ, we just come to you right now saying thank you. We thank you for your grace and your mercy. We thank you for your loving, kind of symptom and mercies. We beg you for getting through anything we might have said, done or thought that's not pleasing your sight that you will grace you, forgive us and cast your back into the midst of hell, where it came from. We pray in the name of Jesus for the ones who have no desires and know who you are, that you will touch them in a way that they can know Definitely it's you. We pray in the name of Jesus for the ones that know what disaster, know who you are but lost their way, that you return them unto you. We pray in the name of Jesus, you just have your way. In Jesus Christ, holy and maximum name, we say thank you and we say amen, amen and amen.

Amen, amen, excuse me, amen. So there we go, we are ready to go, you all. So we are here today. We're not going to be before you very long, but we wanted to kind of bring an introduction to you as we are going through our series of revival and we've been through, you know, like physical revival in regards to our minds and body language and all of those things, and so now we shift over into manhood. Amen, we have four interviews coming back to back for men Primarily. You'll hear Michael here interviewing them. You'll hear me a little bit, not much, mostly him. Amen, because just simply nobody can tell about a man better than a man Get that right. Absolutely so, ladies, definitely. Let's keep our ears open, amen, and hearts open to what they are saying. Hallelujah. Definitely want to, as women, lift their men up, amen, and really, as the Bible says, you ought to respect them. Requirement for men is for love us as women, and for us as women, we're supposed to respect our men. So we dedicate the month of October to manhood, what it likes to be, what it looks like to be a man, the role of the man, michael, you want to add to that.

I'll definitely say that lets us know as diamonds, that a man's role definitely plays a part in it, because some things that we go through in life, who's better to explain what men go through? But men, I mean, it's almost like you can't and I'm got a little human with me, but it's almost like you don't respect a cat to understand the values and the roles of a dog In that sense, and it puts a perspective and a light on that Men definitely is needed in a role.

So we just want to prepare everyone for what is coming. So on October 6th we're going to have Michael Jackwith Jackwith, yes. And then on October 13th, mike Van Pelt he will be with us, and then on the 20th of October we'll have Brian Russell and on the 27th of October we will have Corey Resnick Rosnick, excuse me. So when they come on they will talk about who they are and what they're about. And you know, we're just so excited about this revival because you know, the Lord is awakening some things we didn't even realize was asleep. What you think, honey?

You know. And just to add to that, you know, one thing I can say about each individual, these guys that we interviewed, you know. You know it takes you to a point where you got to sit back and think because I'm going to tell you something I was flabbergasted with some of the things that these men had went through. It's like, hey, I'm not the only one. You know, sometimes we ask men as well as women. You know, we look back and see, we go through things in life and we're always wondering, hey, am I the only one? But this gives us an outlook and say, hey, we're not, because it's easy to go through stuff if you don't have you know, certain things in life or certain role models in life. It almost like you got to learn everything on your own. And I think with these four guys it was like, you know, it was almost putting me in the perspective for the hey, look, I'm not the only one that goes through this stuff. It's part of the life cycle, of what men has to go through.

Yeah, so you know, with all that being said, you know it's a kind of just get us prepared for, but it's coming. You know, the role of the man is so, so vital, more vital than a lot of, not only women, but men as well, don't even realize how important the role of the man in the lives of their wives and the lives of their children and the lives of this world, because it's men are made to be a joke, oftentimes, like they have no stance, like they have no masculine leniency. When they do, it's just so many times the man seems to me that the man values a woman's, woman's, word of A valour I guess you could say you know what I mean. Is I mean, am I wrong when I say that, as your wife, you need me to you, not validate you, but Treat you, or treat you as like you're the only man in the world outside of God for me, in regard to like being my hero?

or, and you know, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, because you know, when you, when you put it like that, it makes like with me and you. It puts me in the mind to say, hey, I'm important, I'm not just the person that you say I do to, is it's. It goes far beyond that, because we got to understand, as me and we need that, that woman in our lives to. It's more of a Like, a love, love language. It's the affirmation that we get from that, that woman, that that puts us in the mind say, hey, I'm important, I'm important. Is this not going out and working to your fingers to the bone, bringing home the bacon or bringing home the money, paying the bills? It goes far beyond that. Right, and that's why I think you know that's what us men we really need. It's not the one to you know, just to hold it to a standard of you got to do this, you got to do that, you got to do this by this deadline. It's the type that will sit there and say, if we don't meet that deadline, honey, it'll be okay, yeah.

Well, what I, what I have learned over the years, you know I'm because I did go through a failed marriage. I had to ask God because it was easy for me to point the finger and say you know everything that he did wrong. But when that, when it failed, I had to ask God what did I do wrong? You know how did I play a part in this marriage falling apart? And you know it's like I said, it's real easy for us to point a finger at him or her which she did and what he did. But you know, with really the focus being on the man, as a woman, in your role, you have to say did I lift him up? Did I respect him? Did I honor him? Did I put him before other men? Did I make him stand out among the men that are around you? You know what I mean. I had to ask God, and that was a tough question because then it meant okay, you got to be intentional about how you treat him. You got to be intentional about how you talk to him. You got to be intentional about making sure that your children honor him, that your children respect him. You know what I mean. Does that make sense? And so you know, in these conversations that are coming forth in the next couple of weeks, this is what you're going to get. You're going to get the perspective outside of Michael and I was from men that we've never actually laid eyes on. But just through this conversation same conversations you will listen to, you're going to find a lot of the same language that you've heard here from them to verify. To verify or to affirm what Spirit is saying to all of us God has made man, the man head. It started with Adam. As much as us, as women, don't want to admit it. Yeah, we do have a lot to do with the fall, but the fall was a part of the plan.

Mm, hmm.

And so I'm saying um, the man, the strength is in him. We're strong as women. I'm not saying that we're not strong, but we are the weaker vessel. When God compares the man to the woman In Genesis, he says that the woman is the weaker vessel, but the woman a man ain't nothing without a woman, because the woman is the woman is the helper to the man. The man can survive without us, but the man needs us. The man needs his other rib, but God desired to make the woman his other rib. God, he actually took the strongest rib, and I've done a little bit of research a long time ago. I don't have that same research in front of me, just, truth be told, I don't have it in front of me right now. But what I did learn in that time was that the rib that was pulled out of Adam was actually the strongest rib In his body. He took that rib out and created the woman out of that one rib. This is the one place where a man can be weak and a woman gains authority over him. This is why men can fall into the hands of a woman through her lips and through her beauty, because that's the strongest part of who he is and in which becomes his weakness. Does that make sense?

I've got to add to this because it's profound on the way I see it. Any man that get offended when I say this I'm sorry but this is a spirit speaking. We had to understand that in that scripture when it says that the woman of the weaker vessel, that does not mean to look down on her as less than you. It's not to look down on her as less than you, but the same token it does not mean that you got to baby her, you got to treat her as equal.

Baby us.

Yeah.

What does that mean?

That means you know, baby, it'll be okay Like that. You know what I mean.

Well, some of us need that. Yeah, oh, I just got him.

Yeah, she got me, but in reality it's not for us to look down on a woman because she's the weaker vessel.

Yeah, and I think I think I'm trying to make clear what he's saying is that it's not okay for a man to look at a woman and see okay, well, I'm the he and you got to listen to me. It's not permission for the man to you know, treat the woman like she doesn't have a voice.

Yeah, yeah, that's that what I'm trying to say. I just couldn't get it out, but you know what I mean. Y'all know what I mean. I'm on that.

Because you do have a voice. You know what I mean. The woman has a voice and this is the way that ought to play out. You have a situation, you have something happening in your life and in your marriage, in your household. Okay, the woman should have a voice to say her opinion on how things should go. The husband, because he loves her, he ought to be listening to her Now, at the end of the day, because the husband respects his wife, she respects his authority, his position, the way that God are dainted to be. Then, out of respect for respect for him and honor of God, she will voice her opinion but allow him to make the final decision. That that that's headship. That's honoring God, respecting him, him loving her, by listening to her, taking her opinions, her voice, what she's saying into account and then making the final decision because, at the end of the day, god holds who accountable honey.

That's me.

Exactly. He holds the man responsible for leadership. Because when he went, when at when, when, when she ate the apple, the Lord looked at him and said what did you do? What is it that she look up? He asked he. What did she do? He looked at him. What is you know as to say, why did you allow this to happen? And the first thing he said well, you gave her to me. He didn't want to take on his responsibility and her out there doing what she wanted to do. He was the final oh God is the final authority. But in that moment he was looking for Adam to say why did you, why did you do, why did you let her do that? You know, why did you eat the apple? And you know his first thing he wanted to blame, but he ain't no blame game. It's not a blame game when it comes down to God. And because he didn't do what he should have done, he said you will work by the brow, sweater your brow all the rest of your life. Yeah, because you didn't do what you should have done, you were supposed to be the head. You was the one that was supposed to say no, we are not going to do that. God said no, and that's what we're going to do. We're not going to do that, and when and when we can get, when our posture is right as a woman and the man's posture is right as a man, we're able to submit to one another. This is how we're able to submit to one another. And that was just a pee being. That was just a brief pee being that was coming in the next, for the entire month of October here. Sorry for all the same job, but this is what's coming for the entire month of October, october, october oh, I'm coming up with a new word the entire month of October. And we wanted to give y'all a peep in. So, michael, you had a script show, thought, or?

something. Yeah, I just had a script. You know, in reference to the script we was talking about, the week of vessel is First Peter, chapter three, verse seven. And this, this is what this is what I'm talking about. You know, we can't, you know, sit there and look down on a woman because she's a week of vessel. It says in first, on first Peter, chapter three, verse seven. It says likewise ye, husband, dwell with them, according to knowledge, given honor unto the wife as the week, unto the week of vessel, as being heirs together of grace of life, that your prayers be not hindered. See, this was this was saying. It saying, you know, we got to honor our wife, forgift for me that she's the week of vessel. We supposed to honor our wife. It says right here that, being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers be not hindered. See, when you look down on your wife as the vessel or the week of vessel, or beneath, you wind up having your prayers that you ask God for hindered. And that's something that we really got to think about. If I'm treating my wife less than me, is my prayers going to be answered on a timely fashion according to the will of grace for the God. I mean, that's a deep thought right there. How treat my wife? Wow, I mean, you got to think about that for a minute, wow.

Man. Wow, I mean I can say, you know, I can say, in regard to Michael and I, I mean I can say it ain't always been easy, but it ain't always been hard. We've had a lot of things that we've had to work through and it was a part of the plan that got a part of the process and this is how we grow together and this is how we grow in general you don't quit in the middle of your process. People are quitting too fast, too soon and you know, one thing that I realized over the years of being married to this young man right beside me is that men, I'm going to say, just because age says you're a man doesn't necessarily mean that you're a man. But life will teach you how to be a man, just like life will teach you how to be a woman, because in manhood, in womanhood, comes maturity. If you're not willing to grow together, if you're not willing to grow individually, then how can you grow with somebody else? Let's pray. Did you have a thought before I pray?

Yeah, I do got a thought, you know, and just add to what you said about the maturity of a man, you know, any male can have a kid, but it takes a man to raise maturity is everything yeah this.

Maturity is everything. Oh, that was a word. Oh, that was a word. That was a word. Father, we thank you so much for this day and this night, and whenever the list this, this diamond, is listening. We bless them. Pray God. The blessings of the Lord be upon your people, sons and your daughters. God for you know, we know that they're not here by accident. We know that what we're talking about is not an accident, but it's certainly ordained by you. We pray, god, you will continue to order our footsteps. Continue, god, to lead the way. Father, we submit our hearts and minds, our bodies, to you that you would have your way. Father, we pray for every man, every boy, every woman and every girl. We pray, god, the job process be a process that will purge out the things that are not like you. Make us more, father. We thank you so much. We bless your name. Read this prayer is pleasing in your sight. Jesus Christ's name, we do pray, amen, amen, amen.

I y'all y'all already know until next time. Remember you are a diamond in the rough.