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Hello, hello, welcome back, god's diamonds in the rough.
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Amen.
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We are so glad to be with you one more time.
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I hope all is well where you are.
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Amen.
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If you didn't know, amen, we have a guest today.
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Amen, hallelujah, and we are just so excited about the direction that God is taking us on tonight.
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Amen.
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If you're watching this by video, she is sitting here with a smiling face.
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Her name is Kimberly Boggio.
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Am I saying that right?
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Boggio.
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Boggio, boggio Okay.
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Everybody kind of messes it up.
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I'm sorry.
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Boggio.
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All right, kimberlygeo.
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Everybody kind of messes it up, I'm sorry, bogeo.
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All right Kimberly, bogeo, amen.
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And before we, for us, and I'm hoping that I will bless whoever listens to this message, amen.
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Amen, we know you will.
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We know you will.
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So y'all know Michael's not here.
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Michael is at work right now, and so, therefore, you have myself and I want to just call her my co-host today.
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Yeah, miss Kimberly, all right, so what we do is we pray before we do anything.
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So, father, we thank you so much for this day, thank you so much for what it's been.
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We pray God that, as we get ready to go into this conversation, you will go before us.
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We pray God that you would bless every diamond that is here, bless everyone who has a desire to understand what you're saying.
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In this time, in this moment, in this season, father, we want to ask you to just simply have your way.
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Have your way in this place.
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God, we give you glory, we give you honor.
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In Jesus Christ's name, we do pray, amen, amen, amen and amen, hallelujah, hallelujah.
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So, ms Kimberly, if you would tell us a little bit about who you are and what it is that you are doing, Okay, well, again, my name is Kimberly Boggio and I live in Oregon, in Central Oregon.
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I am a mother of three children, adult children and a grandmother of five grandkids, believe it or not.
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Wow, why I started my podcast was really to leave a legacy for them and we'll go into that a little bit more in detail.
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But I was raised pretty much in the in the Portland area, was raised in the Church of Christ, so my whole life was, I mean, my childhood life was growing up going to church Sunday morning, sunday night and Wednesday night.
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Childhood life was growing up going to church Sunday morning, sunday night and Wednesday night.
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So you could say that my whole sphere was definitely Christian and I was very sheltered in that particular environment growing up.
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And my great grandparents were actually my some of my best friends and he was a preacher for 63 years.
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So I was always that child who was always interested in God.
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I mean, I can remember as a child coming home from church hearing about hell and I remember looking up to the ceiling when I was going to bed and praying OK God, please do not let me go to hell.
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And I also remember too I know I'm going to sin, because everybody talks about everybody sinning and please God, if I sin, come find me, and he's always.
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He's always done that.
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So I've that's one of the anchors, and that's one of the anchors I think in my life to knowing that he's.
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He never fails us.
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So going through life, you know, getting married, having three kids, it was a huge wake up call for me.
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I married someone who wasn't really a Christian.
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He they did have some Catholic upbringing, but very little and so that was a complete culture shock to me.
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Obviously, going into that family and there was a lot of challenges, a lot of it just wasn't.
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You know, when God says I believe that's one of our protections he gives us is to don't be equally or unequally yoked.
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Well, I did not listen to that and I did so.
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Unfortunately, you know, I did lean on my Christian faith to get me through a lot of challenges.
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The problem is I ended up becoming so bitter and frustrated just with being in such a loveless marriage that I decided to leave.
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But here's where kind of we're talking about.
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Our enemies are up and quench the Holy Spirit and open ourselves up to those forces in Ephesians 6 that they talk about, you know, and we get this thinking that it's the person right in front of us that's affecting us and we've not really seen the clear battle of what's going on.
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And I truly believe now that unless you're really rooted into God's word and I'm talking, I'm not talking a little devotional that you open up your Bible every single day and read a scripture, you're going to be putting yourself and your family in and all the blessings that god wants to give you in jeopardy.
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And it's not because he wants that.
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God is is punishing us, but he is pleading with us to seek him and seek his protection.
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So, going through that time before the bitterness crept in I mean, it was after the bitterness crept in I also went to work in the mortgage industry, mortgage profession, and I'm so naive even to the secular world I mean I just trusted everybody.
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I thought everybody was good and everybody knew God.
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Everybody loved God.
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No, they were sinning.
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They're just got to be mostly all good out there, you know.
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But I wasn't in the word every day and I didn't see that.
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The Bible clearly says that the world is evil and you know, all of us are evil, right, no one is good but God, all of us are evil, right, no one is good God.
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So, um.
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So I was deceived, kind of like that same perception that Satan did with Eve in the garden that you know you could have a much better life if you were doing just divorce.
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You know I even had Christians, friends that understood my situation, that said you'd be better off divorced.
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And so what's interesting about this part is that during this decision I was making Zahid was married for 16 years the leaders, the leadership at my company, had introduced the management team to a book called Law of Attraction, which is so unfortunate.
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You know they were obviously not Christians, right, and me being so bitter and far away Sorry, I'm making it emotional- it's all right.
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Take your time, honey.
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Take your time and you know that's just a part of the healing.
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You know I always say that's healing waters when we've been through something that's really traumatizing and we have to shed some tears because we can't hold on to that.
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To me, gotta, it's to me, it's like jesus washing he's washing and cleansing you all over again so that you can go forth, uh, fully in him.
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So you know, it's just a part of the process.
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I trust me, I get it.
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I get it, I get it, it is, I get it.
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I try not to cry, but it just happens.
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Yeah.
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Anyway.
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So I just soaked that book up and they had given us a journal.
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In that journal, you were to write down the top 10 things that you're mostly grateful for, and then the top 10 things you want to attract, and then one thing that you're going to act on.
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You know, and it's the thing that caught me off guard, is that it sounded so much like what God would want us to do every day and but it's such a deception.
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It was such a subtle deception and and the other thing that I really want to impose on people is to know that the law of attraction is not just one deception thing out tool out there that's being used to pull us away from God and a relationship with God.
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There's other things, and I hope that I can discuss them on my podcast because I'm doing lots of research on each one of those.
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Hope that I can discuss them on my podcast because I'm doing lots of research on each one of those.
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But with the law of attraction and you'll see some of these other things is that one big red flag that I wish I would have flew in on?
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Is that when somebody tells you that it's in yourself to become great, or it's in yourself.
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You can do whatever you want.
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You can heal yourself, you can do this, you can do that.
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That's.
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It should be one big red flag that you're listening to the enemy.
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And um, I didn't.
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I didn't heed that warning, I didn't understand um, which is unfortunate, but I mean, I'm in the right place now.
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So that's the, that's the blessing, um, but with that um, literally, I had written down things that I wanted to attract I thought were godly, but what ended up happening is I was so passionate about that that within three months, I was divorced, within three weeks, okay, after being married for 16 years.
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Payroll, I think, of this mortgage company.
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They had hired a shaman to come in and speak motivational speaking to the group.
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Now, this was one of the number seven largest mortgage company in the country at that time, and so you know they had the money to be able to bring people like this in.
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And again, it sounded so good, it sounded so wonderful and so loving and so caring, and the shaman was supposed to have these abilities for healing and and um, all kinds of things.
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Well, I got connected with him and um, I just remember he, he would do like healing, massages and that kind of thing and I won a massage by him by doing something management team and I had gotten um to be to and he's really expensive and he's really hard to get, you know, to get into, see and um.
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But I truly believe now, looking back, that what happened was, with that, whatever he was into, I mean shamanism, if you look it up, it has a lot to do with um chakras and it's very from very Hindu type paganism God worship, you know, pagan God worship, that kind of thing and um.
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But what happened to me was I became very intuitive, more so, more than this normal um, so much so that I would know things about people.
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And it was confusing to me because, as a Christian, you think, wow, I'm having this insight, I must, it's must be from God, because what else would it be?
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I'm not worshiping any.
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You think, wow, I'm having this insight, I must, this must be from God, because what else would it be?
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I'm not worshiping any, you know, pagan gods or anything and everything that it seemed to me when I would go and talk to somebody and I would know something about them, they would cry and we would have this deep conversations about spirituality, about God, and I thought, wow, I really impacted someone's life in a good way.
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Today Was completely false.
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So my frustration came, as I had asked some of my Christian friends what was going on with me and I wanted to help.
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And then what I also noticed is that I started losing everything.
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I lost my job, my house, my family, everything.
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So it wasn't a blessing in my life.
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Here I was practicing law of attraction.
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Now I will say when I first started I thought it was a very deceiving carrot dangled in front of me.
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I guess I remember one thing I had written down, just for fun, because I heard that this is what you can do with law of attraction to attract money to yourself.
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So I wrote down I want to attract $20,000.
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I want to attract $20,000.
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$20,000.
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I want to track $20,000.
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Well, I started that in January and in August I received a check for $20,000 from my company out of the blue.
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And so then it kind of like, wow, this really works, you know.
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And so I just I just kept going down the wrong rabbit hole.
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I mean got farther and farther away from God and deeper and deeper into the demonic pit.
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And it looks so pleasant.
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It's kind of like that, you know, pinocchio playground, you go and you think, oh, this is so cool.
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And then you start realizing, oh, this is not so cool, and things start happening and so, yes, I started losing everything and I almost lost myself.
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Trying to pull myself out of that.
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I was really, you know, crying out to God and asking what do I need to do?
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You know, this is awful and I'm lonely.
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I really want a godly husband.
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I want to spend the rest of my life serving him, but I was still so wrapped into all of this new age metaphysical stuff and I didn't even know what the word new age meant.
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So so naive, so just out there, completely not.
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I had a heart, wanted to follow God, but I had no armor on at all heart.
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I wanted to follow God, but I had no armor on at all God's armor, no armor at all, and just like asking for somebody to send me a life raft, you know, um.
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So I, um, I.
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I did meet my current husband now and he was going through some pretty rough things himself and I think that was just a perfect storm for Satan to really hurt us, and that's when a lot of the demonic oppression happened and I've seen things that I don't ever want to see.
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In my life.
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I mean, we've had experienced demonic action in our home where, unfortunately, the Christians around me didn't know how to help that, so we had to research it and figure it out ourselves and so, as you can imagine, going through some of the stuff that we did, I'm very passionate about spiritual warfare.
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Um, I'm very passionate about spiritual warfare and it's really not a fun thing to.
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I would rather just talk about the love of christ and all the joy and all that.
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You know everything.
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Amen, hallelujah.
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I want to be there, but I think that god is using me now to bring a light to this spiritual warfare issue, because it affects so many people in their lives and they don't even know it.
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Um, so that's kind of a little bit of about my story.
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Um and I I don't know where you'd want to go from here.
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I, I there's probably more details that I could share Um, I think that, um, we're getting hit.
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I don't see a demon in every corner.
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Okay, I don't think that that's what it is, but I do think that there's so much more demonic um, deception, oppression, I mean, there's all kinds of ways that Satan comes after us, you know, and Satan does say, you know, he comes to steal, kill and destroy, and I heard it one time said that he wants to steal our money, kill our bodies and destroy our relationships.
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And I can see that in scripture how that can be.
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And so if you're feeling like you're being attacked in all these areas, then absolutely you probably are.
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And I will say what I did, my husband and I, once we realized that this was going on and we had to do something.
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I mean, obviously we turned to God, obviously you're praying, but that sometimes isn't the only thing that you need to do.
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Part of it is repenting, and I had so many things in my home that were so not godly that I had no idea I had crystals.
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I probably spent four or $5,000 on these beautiful crystals and my thought process was well, god created them, so why would they be bad?
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You know, I just wanted to surround myself with God's beauty, you know, and so I had those.
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And then I was dabbling in tarot cards, and then my girlfriend and I were doing the Ouija board, I mean, you name it.
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I was probably doing something of that, but not understanding really what I was doing.
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And I've had of the day that was, you know, you can become almost your own God.
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But I didn't believe that I could become God.
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I just thought, oh God gave me the power in myself to bless me so, to be prosperous, to do all those things.
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And reality, I realized it was a big fat lie.
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It's the same lie that Eve believed in the garden.
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Same exact one, just packaged a little bit differently.
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So I definitely I would you know, ask that question.
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I mean, what it sounds like was a lot of manipulation was happening in the spirit, in regard I'm talking about the enemy.
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Lot of manipulation was happening in the spirit, in regard, I'm talking about the enemy, manipulating you into thinking that, oh, this is okay with god, and that god, god, is the author of all of this that's going on in my life right now, and I think that, um, this can easily happen if you're not rooted, rooted, grounded and settled in Jesus.
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Amen, in the word of God, I'm going to tell you a story that I just heard.
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Yes.
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I'm going to tell you a story that I just heard because I'm still doing research on spiritual warfare.
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Okay, and the gentleman that told the story, he has his own podcast.
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But this story impacted me so much because you think sometimes you're just dabbling in into this stuff and it's only affecting you or maybe maybe your spouse, right, but I'm going to share.
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I'm going to share.
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So this man is talking about some tools that the Bible gives us to fight spiritual warfare, and sometimes we think it's just prayer and fasting, really only two things.
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But there's so many more and I'm learning how much more there is.
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But what he did is he and there's and it, and it's a thing I'm actually making mine, my own.
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I have these stakes and on these stakes you can see them, I'm writing the verses, the Bible verses in the Bible that talks about spiritual warfare, protection, all those things, warfare, protection, all those things.
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And in Deuteronomy, 6, 5, or 6, 6 and 6, 7, it talks about how God commanded the Israelites to write the commandments and write his word on the doorpost of your home and write it on the gate, write it on your hand.
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I mean, he was very clear about this and so he got this idea to do these stakes because of a neighbor who said that he had demons in his home, basically, and he didn't know what to do.
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He's a Christian, and I mean a lot of churches.
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They don't talk about spiritual warfare, they don't talk about this kind of stuff, and so that's why I feel passionate about sharing it.
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Spiritual warfare they don't talk about this kind of stuff, and so that's why I feel passionate about sharing it.
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But so he created these stakes and put some Bible verses on it and stake the man's house on his property, all four corners of his property, and the demonic oppression stopped.
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The man wanted to commit suicide.
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That's how, and he wasn't a Christian.
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Okay, but now let me tell you the other story that really caught my attention is that he was, he was at a lecture talking to um, um, a church I think it was in little rock, if I remember correctly and after the lecture, and he was explaining about the and some spiritual warfare research that he had done, a gentleman was waiting to talk to him and he came up to him and said and forgive me if I tell the story, don't tell in sequence, because it's his story to tell and I can give you his name.
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It's, I mean, incredible.
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But this man Christian man had a Christian family, homeschooled all of his children, his three children, and he said I have to ask you a question.
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I have three kids, my daughter.
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About three years ago she was seven and she was acting up and she was doing some things that were just not.
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She didn't learn it from our family.
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He said we homeschool our kids.
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Our kids aren't allowed to have any iPads or iPhones or anything like that, any kind of influence outside.
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I mean, we monitor their television, everything.
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But she started acting out and saying things like I want to kill you, I want to cut you, stuff like that, to her siblings.
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And they just didn't know where that came from.
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Finally, it got so bad that they had to sit her down to find out where she learned this from and where she got it from.
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This is a Christian family that's doing supposedly all the right stuff, right.
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So she finally told them that there is a man that comes and visits her at night, named Legba, that sits at the foot of her bed and talks to her every night, and that's where she was learning this stuff.
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They were shocked.
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They didn't know what to say, because how would she even be in?
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Who is this, you know?
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They just didn't know even be in.
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Who is this, you know?
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They just didn't know.
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So, long story short, they went to their preacher and asked for prayer and to come over and talk to her, and she explained that, yes, he does talk to me, and sometime he told me that he wants to take me to a fun land fun land, whatever that meant.
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And so they asked her well, did you go?
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And she said no, and what?
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What did you think fun land was?
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And a carnival?
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I just didn't know, daddy.
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Okay, so, um, the preacher prayed over this girl and binded the demon or binded whatever was happening, right and left.
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It got much better in their house.
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I thought it was, you know, maybe it was resolved and they could go on.
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But three years into this, after the prayer, they could still see some type of remnant or something like clearly in her personality there's still something there.
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So she, um, so he had gone to this lecture where Steve was talking about spiritual warfare and about the stakes, and he said I really like the idea about staking your you know, our property and and all of that.
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So, anyway, they had this conversation and he gives them the stakes, it goes home.
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I don't know if he does the stakes that night or whatever, but when Steve went home he said I'd never had this happen before and I've never had it happen after.
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But I dreamt about this little girl and somehow, when I woke up, I knew that I needed to call the dad and have the dad ask her three questions.
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And the three questions were one did Legba touch her?
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Two did Legba give her anything?
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And three did Legba touch her to?
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Did Legba give her anything?
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And three did Legba introduce her to anybody?
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And so the dad said you know what?
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I'll ask her right now.
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We're homeschooling her.
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She's right here.
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I'll call you back in five minutes.
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So he calls him back and says OK, steve, I asked those three questions in the same order you gave me.
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And no, legba did not touch her and no, he did not give her anything.
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But when we asked her about if he introduced her to anybody, she got excited and said oh yes, daddy, he, he introduced me to all his friends.
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This is a seven-year-old Christian girl in homeschool.
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Okay, so if we think that we can't have this happen to us as Christians, we just have to realize that these things really do happen and we need to know how to help one another and to guard, you know, from these things.
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Anyway, long story short, steve instinctively said that he knew that he needed to ask the dad one more question, ask her if there was any time that Lugba gave her some sort of a secret code that if she ever wanted to come to Funland she would just need to say this word or something and then she could just go.
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And he said, steve, when we asked her that her head held down for about two minutes.
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But we were persistent, we needed to have the answer to that question and finally she looked up to her dad and said yes, daddy, but I wasn't supposed to tell you that.
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So obviously, staking your home or guarding us, I mean, when I believe now that when I read Deuteronomy six, that God's not just saying that you know, write our commandments and my words on your post and on your gates and on your hand, it's because it's not just for us to remember how to obey him, but it's for protection, it's his power over us.
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And so that's why I feel so strongly a part of this spiritual warfare, that we need to know what the scripture says about our the ability for God to give us power for our protection.
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You know what is the full armor of God?
